Yet another crisis of faith...

topic posted Tue, December 6, 2005 - 12:39 PM by  SENSEI
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This tribe was born out of a particular crisis of faith about a year ago.

I had been a practicing Muslim (Sufi dervish) for a while. I had practiced Buddhism in one way or another since childhood. 2001 I took Buddhist vows in synch with my dervish vows (which are very congruent). What turned out to not be congruent were some of the structural issues between the Vedic and the Prophetic traditions.

But that was last years crisis... I'm way over that.

I have another crisis now. Its regarding this issue of being "in the world, but not of the world".

I'm finding it less and less sustainable. Furthermore, I'm starting to wonder about a few of the fine points of things. I'm beginning to feel like I wasn't meant for this world at all, yet here I am.

How can one be in this world yet not of it?
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SENSEI
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  • Re: Yet another crisis of faith...

    Tue, December 6, 2005 - 1:40 PM
    I'm trying to find the happy medium in that as well. It's so tempting to embrace a world renouncer attitude and yet, I don't think that that is really the best way. But if it's not all one or the other, is it just about compromises? That doesn't seem right either.
  • Re: Yet another crisis of faith...

    Tue, December 6, 2005 - 4:40 PM
    >>I'm finding it less and less sustainable. Furthermore, I'm starting to wonder about a few of the fine points of things. I'm beginning to feel like I wasn't meant for this world at all, yet here I am. <<

    I think just about everyone of a mystical bent has thought something similar at one time or another. But if you think about it, there's no real way you could be here if you're not meant to be here. Whether or not you're willing to be here is the question... I mean, do you suppose you had to come here for some reason? Why are you here? Honestly, it's not punishment (no matter what some people might believe).

    Everyone who is here is "meant for this world." Everyone has something to do. There is something you meant to do before you got here. So you've forgotten it through the transition of birth... go figure it out and do it. If you just sit and complain that you're not meant for this world, you're never going to get done whatever task it was you contracted to be here for.

    I don't mean to sound like I'm yelling at you, but I've heard the statement that [someone] is "not meant for this world" so often, that it irks me everytime I hear(read) it. Everyone is here for a reason. You may not remember the reason, and this existence may be alien to the being you were before your arrival, but (no offense) get over it. You're not the only one, so start dealing with it. Get your task done. If you can't remember what it was you were supposed to do, then just go out and do what you think is right. I'm pretty sure you'll find whatever it is you were supposed to do eventually.

    What you really feel is that this existence is hard. It doesn't cooperate like the *other place*. The entity you were doesn't belong here, but *You* do. This is your world now; you are a creature of it. So make peace with it and learn to work with what you have. It's not going to get any easier until you accept this as your home (however temporary). You're here for the duration of your life to complete whatever task it was you came here to complete. So stop saying you don't belong here. That's the voice of a crabby child whining to go home.

    Sorry for the rant, but I felt it needed to be said.
    :: hugs Sensei ::
  • Re: Yet another crisis of faith...

    Fri, May 12, 2006 - 2:21 PM
    Hi everyone - I am new to this tribe. Couldnt help but repy to this...
    I have spent most of my life not wanting to be here....however, only just recently became consciously aware of these feelings, and I am now doing something about it. My problem was being unable to connect with people and events in my life and this strange planet we live upon which I am sure is a feeling common to a lot of people who are sensitive, loving and aware. However, I have come to realise that these feelings were based upon the judgement of others, and also upon taking things personaly. Now I recognise that it is what I do, think, and say that matters, and that I do my best to hold love and a loving intention in all moments, and that is part of why I am here on this beautiful planet. I am starting to be grateful for being here and for the lessons ( even the painful ones ) provided by this experience and this lifetime on this planet.
    Thanks for listening...
  • Re: Yet another crisis of faith...

    Sat, May 2, 2009 - 1:01 PM
    I just found this post, I am very suprised to see that there are people like me out there!
    Isn't it so funny we people tend to think we are the only ones in the whole world doing something, or thinking it.